Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3262 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2004 10:55:41 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Feb 2004 10:55:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 66309 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2004 10:55:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 66110 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2004 10:55:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 66063 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2004 10:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO trinity.anyware-tech.com) (217.112.237.100) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Feb 2004 10:55:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 31376 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2004 10:55:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO apache.org) (10.1.0.254) by trinity.anyware-tech.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2004 10:55:20 -0000 Message-ID: <4028B896.4050506@apache.org> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:55:18 +0100 From: Sylvain Wallez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: fr, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Goal of the Cocoon TLP References: <80D6F66E-57C5-11D8-91BC-000A958B684A@outerthought.org> <594743E8-5BB3-11D8-B48D-000A958B684A@outerthought.org> <4028B6B8.7020307@upaya.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4028B6B8.7020307@upaya.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Upayavira wrote: > Steven Noels wrote: > >> On 05 Feb 2004, at 11:24, Steven Noels wrote: >> >>> I'll try to wordsmith this into a short mission statement, but I'd >>> like to hear whether this categorization makes sense to you. >> >> >> >> Thanks for all your comments & suggestions. Let's see how lyric I am >> today: >> >> "The Apache Cocoon Community Project fosters community-based >> exploration, design and implementation of web application frameworks >> with a focus on XML pipelining, centralized configuration mechanisms >> and separation of concerns through composability rather than >> programmability, by combining and adding onto existing Apache and >> other open source libraries. It hosts web application development >> frameworks, applications built on these frameworks, and development >> tools built for these frameworks and applications." > > > Sounds good. Concern though is that it reads 'web-centric'. Whilst > Cocoon is 'primarily' about web publishing and applications, it is not > 'exclusively' about that. Get that in there somewhere, and I'll be happy! It all depends on what we understand by "web". Considering the CLI (your pet Cocoon environment), the final target is web publishing, isn't it? Now that's true that I also use the CocoonBean in a Swing application that has no relation to the web. But this seems very marginal to me. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com