Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 63210 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2004 06:38:23 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Feb 2004 06:38:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 33245 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2004 06:37:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 33168 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2004 06:37:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 33141 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2004 06:37:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO confixx.bestiole.ch) (66.111.0.243) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Feb 2004 06:37:56 -0000 Received: from apache.org (lsn-boi-catv-c121-p001.vtx.ch [212.147.121.1]) by confixx.bestiole.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1C6c6P09496 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:38:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:38:24 +0100 Subject: Re: bugzilla usage (was: [IMP] Code Freeze) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Bertrand Delacretaz To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <402A7A17.2020203@gmx.de> Message-Id: <0F017483-5D26-11D8-AC5E-000393CFE402@apache.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Le Mercredi, 11 f=E9v 2004, =E0 19:53 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a = =E9crit=20 : > ...The dependency tree as we use it at the moment is not meant=20 > blocking, but that's an obvious wrong usage of it and bugzilla as it=20= > reads "bug 123 blocks 456". We really should use this only for=20 > blocking issues... I disagree, these dependency lists are very useful to quickly get a=20 picture of where we stand. But you're right that saying "bug 123 blocks 456" is not correct. Note=20= that the reverse field is called "bug 456 depends on 123" which=20 correctly represents what we mean: dependencies, not blocking. We might be flexing bugzilla a bit (hmm....someone will certainly=20 mention jira here) but it seems to work well, I think bugzilla is used=20= much more now than a few months ago and find it a Good Thing. Problem is, in a dependency page like http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D25321 you don't see what's a blocker, what's nice to have and so on. An easy way to fix this would be to add [BLOCKER] to the title as we=20 already do for patches. The official way is to use the "severity" field, but unfortunately it=20 is not visible on the dependency tree. ... > Bugzilla provides another function to add "might be good to have it in=20= > the release": target milestones. We should just add milestones for=20 > every release and set value for the "might be good ..."-bugs. You're right but I prefer the dependency tree because of the crossed /=20= non-crossed bug display. And target milestones need to be changed=20 manually a lot when bugs don't make it to the expected release. > WDYT? Where are the bugzilla admins? Some of us have additional rights in bugzilla to be able to define=20 products and components, see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dxml-cocoon-dev&m=3D107029869507213&w=3D2= But it doesn't mean we're the rulers of bugzilla, it's as much a=20 community tool as everything else. -Bertrand