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From "Butler, Mark" <>
Subject RE: [vote] Removing Jalopy
Date Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:12:18 GMT

Please can you give more details of what the license problem is? Saxon also
uses aelfred.jar also -  see


Mark Butler
Research Scientist 
HP Labs Bristol 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Noels [] 
Sent: 17 February 2004 14:44
Subject: [vote] Removing Jalopy

Hi all,

we were reviewing licenses on the PMC list, and hit aelfred.jar, an XML 
parser needed for Jalopy (in the tools directory). While the license 
apparently might eventually allow for inclusion in our CVS/distribution 
[1], we figured to question the necessity of having Jalopy in Cocoon at 

I think programmatical enforcement (let alone agreement on the required 
rules) of code style isn't likely to happen, nor have we been seeing 
much problems with coding style differences.

Let's drop Jalopy. Your votes please.

I'm +1.

[1] please, please check licenses of new libraries and their own 
dependency libraries when adding new stuff to CVS!

Steven Noels                  
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