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From Geoff Howard <>
Subject Re: Of One-man Efforts and the like
Date Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:00:52 GMT
Scott Robert Ladd wrote:

> Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
>> Fair enough; reading between the lines, I guess you're partly saying
>> that prior versions of Jisp weren't robust enough to be readily adopted
>> by a community?
> Jisp began life as an accidental product. People found it in my books, 
> and asked to license it. The book code was demonstrative; it had never 
> been tested. Over the course of several years, I patched the code as 
> best I could, but finally decided that the underlying core had serious 
> flaws. Thus I did a major rewrite used by my few commercial customers, 
> but not released as free code.
> As I've moved away from writing books (too much work for too little 
> money), Jisp has taken on a new role as an advertisement. As such, I 
> released the commercial version as free software (version 3.0), under 
> the GPL and commercial license to emphasize that this is a product and 
> not some hobbiest's weekend hack.
>> Wish I could put my money where my mouth is on this issue (so to speak);
>> at this point I have to drop out of the discussion... 
> As is usual in life, the best people tend to have the least money. :)
> I would *love* to spend time working on projects like Apache -- but I 
> haven't the luxury of free time. Do I think people can make money from 
> working on free software? Certainly -- my primary contract right now 
> is to write free software for a big British company (heh, they're 
> outsourcing to America).
> And while money is nice, I'm also willing to consider various designs 
> for mutually-beneficial arrangements.


By and large the people here recognize your right (and everyone's right) 
to do what you want with your code.  I appreciate your quandry and 
position.  Apache projects (at least this one) have their own "religion" 
valuing community - but not all projects translate well to community 
ownership.  There may be some very real benefits to a community like 
Cocoon to avoid single-person projects because they have a risk of 
"disappearing" either by license change or by "retirement" etc.  Of 
course these or similar risks exist in community-based projects, as well 
as pure commercial projects.  I personally have been bitten by all three 
of these poisons as have many here.  All that to say, I hope we haven't 
gotten off on the wrong foot here.  Thanks for joining in the discussion 
directly, and don't let our liveliness turn you off.

I'll add a brief comment and suggestion on the license-related thread.


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