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From Upayavira>
Subject Re: [vote] Removing Jalopy
Date Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:11:32 GMT
Butler, Mark wrote:

>Please can you give more details of what the license problem is? Saxon also
>uses aelfred.jar also -  see
The issue was with the perception that it was GPL. In fact, from that 
page, I can see that there is a GPL version, but that the Saxon version 
is in fact issued on a BSD style licence, and is thus okay. Depending 
upon which version of Aelfred we have in CVS, this licence issue might 
be a red-herring. Anyway, perhaps removing Jalopy is a good thing anyway.

Regards, Upayavira

>Mark Butler
>Research Scientist 
>HP Labs Bristol
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Noels [] 
>Sent: 17 February 2004 14:44
>Subject: [vote] Removing Jalopy
>Hi all,
>we were reviewing licenses on the PMC list, and hit aelfred.jar, an XML 
>parser needed for Jalopy (in the tools directory). While the license 
>apparently might eventually allow for inclusion in our CVS/distribution 
>[1], we figured to question the necessity of having Jalopy in Cocoon at 
>I think programmatical enforcement (let alone agreement on the required 
>rules) of code style isn't likely to happen, nor have we been seeing 
>much problems with coding style differences.
>Let's drop Jalopy. Your votes please.
>I'm +1.
>[1] please, please check licenses of new libraries and their own 
>dependency libraries when adding new stuff to CVS!

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