From dev-return-52302-apmail-cocoon-dev-archive=cocoon.apache.org@cocoon.apache.org Mon Dec 01 14:04:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8524 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 14:04:15 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 14:04:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 36129 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 14:04:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 35786 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 14:04:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 35772 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 14:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO main.gmane.org) (80.91.224.249) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 14:04:08 -0000 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQoen-0000g2-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:04:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQoel-0000fu-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:04:07 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQoel-0007nO-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:04:07 +0100 From: Nicola Ken Barozzi Subject: Re: Doco needs landing Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:01:01 +0100 Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <004701c3b36e$8f493560$1e01a8c0@WRPO> <1069987559.2430.13586.camel@ighp> <66ED93C5-2285-11D8-9AA1-000393D2CB02@apache.org> <1070284468.1236.1384.camel@ighp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031119 Thunderbird/0.4a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <1070284468.1236.1384.camel@ighp> Sender: news X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David Crossley wrote: > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > >>>David Crossley wrote: ... > My concern was not necessarily that Forrest should be doing it, > but rather that Forrest was born to do that, then lost its people, > then had to modify its dreams. Let us get it right this time. Well, this is not exactly how I see it. Forrest lost its people? Where? What happened IMHO is that the frontend part was so "big" to do properly that Forrest had to simply concentrate on that. The rest came by itself, and we are still concentrating on that part. With afterthought it seems logical that there is a core group that concentrates on what Forrest now is doing. ... > The initial proposal was copied to many different > lists and it is hard to follow. Hmmm... ... > You say "land here" .... Where? In Cocoon? Is it just a block maybe? Till I see it, I really can't say. In any case, this is Stefano's tentative. If it fails (and I don't think it will), others can easily try again. If others want to give him a hand say so, and he will surely use some help. Personally I don't have time and motivation to do what he is doing, nor the skill actually, so from my POV whatever he does is ok, and I'll just see what to do when it "lands". I could see a problem if/when others want to actively help but even after asking him cannot, but I don't see this happening. I think that creating a doco@apache.org mailing list, similar to repository@apache.org could create a nice space where all these projects and even others can discuss things without crossposting. For example Stefano could use it to post advancements of his efforts or make cross-list questions. Whattadathink? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) ---------------------------------------------------------------------