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From Jorg Heymans>
Subject Re: (Cocoon tools)
Date Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:27:12 GMT
I think the tools department is a good idea.

It could be used as some sort of "incubator" where tools can mature 
before developers decide whether it's worth including it in the main 
distribution or not.

People could put their own custom 
generators/serializers/transformers/stylesheets/forms/flowscripts there, 
thus increasing the sharing of available knowledge. I'm sure some great 
tools will appear because of this.

Agreed the wiki has all of this as well, but doesn't 
sound as crisp and clear as eg

The only possible problem i see is the possible scattering of knowledge 
accross yet another website or wiki.

but overall (in the style of the cocoon committers)



Arje Cahn wrote:

> Just so you PMC guys know what happened.
> I got a response from the Korean guy that runs This is what
he said:
> 	Dear Arje Cahn
> 	I'm Keyseon, Min.
> 	I am a korean undergraduate studing Cocoon and I am managing 
> 	the site of 
> 	.... >snip< ...
> 	I thought Cocoon Sitemap Tracer don't be brought to completion. 
> (which is completely right :-) )
> 	.... >snip< ...
> 	The is translation site into Korean. I 
> 	hope to help korean developer or user use cocoon easily. The 
> is independent of up to now.
> 	.... >snip< ...
> 	I would like to contribute to and implement 
> 	program continuously for the cocooner.
> Sounds ok. I've suggested him that it would be good to donate the tool to the
> On the other hand....
> "I hope to help korean developer or user use cocoon easily"
> That's an alarm bell ringing.
> Which leads me to the following question: what about a "tools" department for Cocoon?
I know there has been some talk of it, but what happened to it? Looks like Keyseon actually
created a seperate 'tools' department, apart from the Apache group, that should have been
inside the Cocoon site anyway.
> Apart from that, what is the status of
> Regards,
> Arjé Cahn
> Hippo Webworks
> Grasweg 35
> 1031 HW Amsterdam
> The Netherlands
> Tel  +31 (0)20 6345173 
> Fax +31 (0)20 6345179
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> /
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Arje Cahn 
>>Posted At: Friday, November 28, 2003 7:53 PM
>>Posted To: Cocoon Dev List
>>I had a great laugh when I saw a screenshot of my own sitemap 
>>tracer application, copied in a Korean version, rebuilt and 
>>downloadable on the website 
>>I have no problems with them taking my idea, but since they 
>>are posting it under the Apache flag, I was wondering wheter 
>>they will commit it back to the *real* apache CVS as well?
>>(In the end, I think they would do better using SunBow 
>>instead of my crappy tryout :) )
>> for 
>>my rant on this)
>>Hippo Webworks
>>Grasweg 35
>>1031 HW Amsterdam
>>The Netherlands
>>Tel  +31 (0)20 6345173 
>>Fax +31 (0)20 6345179
>> /

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