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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:49:22 +0100
From: Joerg Heinicke <jheinicke@virbus.de>
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Subject: Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)
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On 24.11.2003 22:32, Ugo Cei wrote:

> Joerg Heinicke wrote:
> 
>> I'm with you here and would even not add a simple stylesheet. People 
>> adding simply a guestbook won't use Cocoon, so it's more or less 
>> useless effort. Cocoon Forms has "higher aims" :-)
> 
> 
> Sorry if I misunderstood you, but your sentence on "focusing on server 
> side form processing" is the only thing I take issue with. As for the 
> rest, I'm happy that we fully agree.

Focussing does not mean ignoring the rest. Woody is a server-side form 
framework and so there should be the focus. We must provide a nice 
default implementation of client side code, i.e. styling. But this 
styling should not take to much effort and time. I had the impression 
that it took to much in the last days/weeks, esp. as such a library like 
the calendar is/has to be maintained and was extended by help popup 
while this is in my opinion useless with the background of no being 
future-safe for example for XHTML. I simply could not understand why we 
put that effort into such outdated stuff while other work has also to be 
done => re-focus.

Joerg