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From "Antonio Gallardo" <>
Subject Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)
Date Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:54:51 GMT
Ugo Cei dijo:
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>> I don't agree with you here: you cannot seriously convince people to use
>> Woody if it doesn't provide the minimal "fancy features" that every
>> other form framework provides. You won't convince anybody with flat
>> inputs. We need tooltips, help popups, calendars, etc. But I also think
>> the current field-styling.xsl has reached a size where it must be split
>> into smaller units that everybody can assemble depending on their needs
>> (see below).
> I'm with you here. Let's face it, what people are and will be using
> Woody for is mainly HTML forms, and there's no way you can make a decent
> form-based application without *lots* of DHTML code. For example, in my
> current project we have forms with hundreds of fields, and having tabs
> is a huge usability improvement. So much that for an early prototype we
> developed our own "tabs" script on top of JXForms, but as soon as I saw
> Woody's tabs I threw the prototype away and restarted from scratch.


> If there are problems with the current implementation, let's fix them
> and provide a standards-compliant DHTML-based toolkit for those who need
> it (like me ;-) ). If we want to create the best web application
> development platform in the world, we cannot provide only a server-side
> solution and tell people to do their homework on the client side. This
> isn't going to sell.


> Let's not just provide something for the lowest common denominator
> (a.k.a. Netscape 4.X). We could do a simple stylesheet for people who
> just want a plain registration form for their guestbook, but I'd
> question the appropriateness of using Woody for that, the
> FormValidatorAction would work much better.

To be honest I love so much woody that even my simple login form use it.
The usability matters in my case.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

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