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From David Crossley <>
Subject RE: Problem with CVS of Cocoon-Documentation & an Authoring Question
Date Mon, 01 Dec 2003 04:43:54 GMT
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Joerg Heinicke wrote:
> > I'm okay with this solution as I'm already using Mozilla, but what about 
> > the others. Indeed there should be people out there not using Mozilla, 
> > what I can't imagine. ;-)
> This is not only an IE problem. Try to validate that xml doc in an XML
> editor. This will simply fail, because the xml editor can't find the
> dtd to validate against :( (Of course, if you use sunBow, this problem
> is fixed there by using catalogs :) )
> So,
> > Another solution that came to my mind is pointing to a web URL like 
> > This would also make 
> > validating possible in editors that don't understand catalogues.
> this seems to be a good approach for me.

Would it be acceptable to infrastructure@ apache? It is not just
one simple DTD you are downloading, there are many included bits.

I do not agree with the approach. Cocoon has encouraged people to
use the entity resolver. We should not join their bad practice.

A better solution might be to move away from DTDs. Oh drat, some
editors only support DTDs ... foiled again.

> I'm not sure, but I think
> the forrest people have already put their dtds somewhere at
> * Perhaps this as well?

No, Forrest does use such URIs now, but there is deliberately
no resource at the end of it. We encourage the use of proper
tools, such as the catalog entity resolver.

There is some recent discussion on forrest-dev. Here is one bit:


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