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From "Joe Latty" <>
Subject Re: Web Service Transformers in Cocoon (Re: [article] EAI using Apache Cocoon 2.1)
Date Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:47:55 GMT

I have attached the latest WSIncludeTransformer.

Further to the discussion, however, we are doing our SOAP calls up front
now, calling our SOAPController directly from Flow Script. The SOAP
controller is literally the SOAP calls from the WSIncludeTransformer removed
from the transformer.

If anything goes wrong with the call we can take appropriate action (server
down, session timeout, incorrect password etc etc).

Our Woody binding file binds the returned xml to our beans which do a lot of
the logic needed.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Fagerstrom" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Web Service Transformers in Cocoon (Re: [article] EAI
using Apache Cocoon 2.1)

> Joe Latty wrote:
> >We are using the Web Service Transformer, discussed in the
> >here (where it was originally written) in a production environment. So
> >we have had no problems with it.
> >
> >I can post the latest version of the WSIncludeTransformer if anyone is
> >interested.
> >
> Please do! As soon as I find time for it I will make an effort to
> combine the best festures from the various implementations.
> >However, having said that, we have found problems with doing SOAP/HTTP
> >during pipeline processing. When something goes wrong it is difficult to
> >recover gracefully.
> >
> <rant>
> Agree, in the past I tried in vain to convince the community that there
> is a need for selection based on sitemap content and state
> (
> Now you can achieve something similar witing three pipelines. One that
> construct the input to the soap transformer and uses the soap
> transformer, one for handling the output if everything wents well and
> one for error handling then you call the first one from a flowscript
> with processPipelineTo, and streams the output of it into a dom tree.
> Then you can analyze the reusult in it and make a senPage to one of the
> result handling pipelines. I must admit that I am not jumping up and
> down, shouting out my joy, when I think of the elegance of this solution
> ;). But it does it work, and after a while I even might start to think
> of it as an idiom or design pattern ;) Or I find the energy for fighting
> for what is good and right again ;)
> </rant>
> >And most of our SOAP/HTTP calls are being now done using
> >the Flow controller and Woody.
> >
> >SOAP/HTTP calls return XML which then populates forms/beans using woody
> >binding.
> >
> >var xml =,
> >soapMethod, params, timeout);
> >form.load(xml);
> >//;
> >
> >Joe
> >
> I could not find the o.a.c.util.SOAPController in the Cocoon repository,
> is it something you have developed? And if that is the case it would be
> nice if you could commit that component as well.
> /Daniel

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