Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 15972 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 14:45:32 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 14:45:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 38301 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2003 14:45:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 38235 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2003 14:45:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 38079 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 14:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pulse.betaversion.org) (217.158.110.65) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 14:45:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5740 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 14:45:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO apache.org) (stefano@80.105.91.155) by pulse.betaversion.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 14:45:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:45:33 +0100 Subject: Re: [proposal] Doco Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: Lenya Developers List , dev@cocoon.apache.org, server-dev@james.apache.org To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org From: Stefano Mazzocchi In-Reply-To: <3F9E5C9B.7040502@outerthought.org> Message-Id: <6239F242-0955-11D8-871A-000393D2CB02@apache.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 13:10 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >>> Doco came to my mind when finding >>> http://kokochi.com:8080/sapience/test.jsp in Hippo's blog. >> Can I be anal for a sec? > > LOL. Sure, as long as you wipe properly afterwards, no problem here. > :-) > >> cool, but what do we do with it? > > Well, since people had to come up with anti-spam measures for weblog > comments, because of some nitwits which abuse the comment facility of > modern weblog engines using automated tools, to raise Google rankings > of spam-linked websites, I figure the same will start happening with > any light-weight content contribution tool in the upcoming months. > > We have seen similar abuse on the Cocoon wiki as well. Rather than > completely offload the burden of moderation to a bunch of people, we > should come up with an upfront facility for blocking automated abuse. > Similar to the facilities found in MSN Hotmail, Paypal and others who > use some generated image to validate sign up for their system, having > something like this Sapience thing might reduce the moderation burden > in the long run. > > It's cool for sure, but it might be some good way to make sure only > humans edit content, and not a bunch of malevolent bots. That is a *very good point* and I think you are perfectly right: we should put it into Doco. Any idea on how to do it? -- Stefano.