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Subject: RE: [RT] Improved navigation of learning objects
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:45 +1300
Message-ID: <5744FAECB4B8864F83CB05F2E1D16EEB18AE01@coso.staff.vuw.ac.nz>
Thread-Topic: [RT] Improved navigation of learning objects
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From: "Conal Tuohy" <Conal.Tuohy@vuw.ac.nz>
To: <dev@cocoon.apache.org>

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

> We will probably be moving the Forrest DTD to XHTML2 in one=20
> of the next=20
> things to do. As you know, there are <meta> tags that are a=20
> nice way of=20
> adding additional info in the page.
>=20
> http://academ.hvcc.edu/~kantopet/xhtml/index.php?page=3Dxhtml+me
> ta+content
> "
> Types of meta-information include:
>=20
>      * The contents and topics of the document.

DocBook has this too - you can markup a section as relating to a topic =
in some external controlled vocabulary. I think this is a good way to =
relate a document or part of a document to a particular concept or set =
of concepts.

Stefano wrote:
>  > I agree that there must be some kind of automatism going=20
> on, but the
>  > topic creation is a human task and programs would do a=20
> terrible job at
>  > doing this.

Nicola wrote:
> It's still humans editing them, but the information can be=20
> scattered in=20
> the documents themselves.

Yes ... the topics (at least the main, ontological, topics) are written =
by hand, and the documents contain metadata that LINKS them to these =
ontological topic. So the metadata in the docs are precisely =
ASSOCIATIONS rather than topics.

> > but anyway, we decided to do a first step with handwritten=20
> linkmaps. we=20
> > can move incrementally from there on.
>=20
> What I see is that metadata in the docs cannot and should not totally=20
> replace a centralized bell-written site.xml, but can nicely=20
> complement it.

Agree 100%. Except for the "bell-written" bit. :-)