Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 66032 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2003 09:14:48 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2003 09:14:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 98494 invoked by uid 500); 1 Oct 2003 09:14:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 98467 invoked by uid 500); 1 Oct 2003 09:14:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 98452 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2003 09:14:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO astro.danet.de) (134.101.28.103) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2003 09:14:17 -0000 Received: from mgmtpc.an.danet.de ([127.0.0.1]) by astro.danet.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HM2N0600.64M for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:14:30 +0200 Received: from Danet.de (pc-ml.an.danet.de [134.101.26.71]) by mgmtpc.an.danet.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h919ETce002213 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:14:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3F7A9AF6.9090504@Danet.de> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:14:30 +0200 From: "Dr. Michael N. Lipp" Reply-To: lipp@Danet.de Organization: Danet GmbH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Disappointed about avalon usage References: <3F7A8706.3060706@Danet.de> <3F7A8AC4.8090208@anyware-tech.com> <3F7A8FAB.7040103@Danet.de> <3F7A92E1.5090806@anyware-tech.com> <3F7A942B.1090709@anyware-tech.com> In-Reply-To: <3F7A942B.1090709@anyware-tech.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > Typo: Where/how is poolable *not* used as it should be ? > Sorry, it is really quite some time ago. It was something with DOM/SAX handling. When I just looked through the code (2.0.4), the only thing I could find was XMLByteStreamCompiler being generally used with "new XMLByteStreamCompiler" although it implements Recycable (which I mixed up with pooled in my previous mail, I think). You should probably forget about this detail - if I come across it again, I'll send a note. My project aac-xforms (another approach to Coocon XForms) grew out of the desire to have the "standard" XForms in Cocoon. I'm still working on this project, but have currently very little time and so it is making little progress. Sometimes I look at chiba/chicoon and wonder if I should stop aac-xforms, but I still like my approach ;-). Concerning the server/client question of XForms, I think there will always be demand for a pure server side solution (or at least approximation, as you can obviously not fully implement UI event behaviour) until XForms is integrated in browser (which will not shortly - if ever - happen). Believe it or not, especially the large costumers of the company I'm working for are still hesitant about allowing JavaScript (bad) or user driven download of plugins (very bad) and "please do not propose a solution that requires our IT department to do installation of software on the clients". - Michael