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From Ugo Cei <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Proposal a new OJB block
Date Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:28:11 GMT
Upayavira wrote:
> Nicolas Toper wrote:
>> why don't we use hibernate?
> Because it is LGPLd, and we cannot have LGPL code in our CVS repository.
> Someone did mention getting the hibernate guys to change their licence, 
> and IIRC suggested that they were prepared to do so. If someone did get 
> them to adopt a BSD style licence, we would be able to include it in a 
> 'persistence' block, which would be great.

This is what Gavin King wrote last June:

 > So, unless someone can show some concrete and immediate benefit to the
 > project by going BSD ... like, for example, that the
 > LGPL is the only thing keeping Microsoft from bundling Hibernate with
 > Windows ... I'm not inclined to change anything now.
 > You *can* use Hibernate in a commercial, closed-source product. As was
 > always my intent. If you _modify_ Hibernate and then
 > redistribute your modifications, you must make those modifications
 > (only)
 > available according to the terms of the LGPL.
 > If anyone has ANY doubt that their usage is compliant, I am quite
 > happy to
 > send them an email stating wether what they are doing complies with
 > the LGPL
 > as we are interpreting it. Lawyers take such emails very seriously.

Moreove, now that Hibernate has joined JBoss, I don't think it very 
likely that Gavin will change the license or even publish it under a 
dual license.

Ugo Cei - Consorzio di Bioingegneria e Informatica Medica
P.le Volontari del Sangue, 2 - 27100 Pavia - Italy
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