Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 56116 invoked by uid 500); 22 Aug 2003 19:14:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 56050 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2003 19:14:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO trinity.anyware-tech.com) (217.112.237.100) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Aug 2003 19:14:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 30397 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2003 16:27:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anyware-tech.com) (10.1.0.254) by trinity.anyware-tech.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2003 16:27:19 -0000 Message-ID: <3F464466.7020506@anyware-tech.com> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:27:18 +0200 From: Sylvain Wallez Organization: Anyware Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: fr, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: "Production" build for Cocoon? References: <069c01c368c7$3d4812a0$1600a8c0@hypernexinc.local> In-Reply-To: <069c01c368c7$3d4812a0$1600a8c0@hypernexinc.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Roger I Martin PhD wrote: >standalone-demo build target is one of the worst ways to work with Cocoon; yet alone achieve what Chris is asking. Cocoon is a super charged super powerful servlet that can be used to achieve some pretty amazing results. > >I've read the INSTALL.txt and it is a excellent example of unprofessional writing. In fact it is simply obnoxious. > > Please don't forget that all Cocoon developers started as Cocoon users. So why don't you jump in and write some better install docs ? The community would be very thankful for this. If sending patches is too complex, you can contribute to the Cocoon wiki, as many users do. >For Cocoon developers: you need to start thinking of Cocoon as a servlet intended to be used "inside" of your customer's webapp. If I opened an M$ product out of the box and the way to "INSTALL" it was described as in INSTALL.txt with the results far from "That's it!" I would not hesitate to return it. > Yeah, but with M$ you pay for that shiny box, have no way to make your feedback heard nor to contribute back. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com