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From "Robert Simmons" <robert.simm...@norcom.de>
Subject Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion
Date Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:37:13 GMT
<quote>I wasnt insulting anyone and i appologize if it sounded like that.
</quote>

I noticed you failed to copy that block into your acerbic reply. I
appologized once, I wont do it again.

-- Robert


"Gianugo Rabellino" <gianugo@apache.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3F4DE556.80600@apache.org...
> Robert Simmons wrote:
>
> > I wasnt accusing anyone of being childish. I wish you wouldnt put words
in
> > my mouth. I merely meant that the demands of a business environment are
> > quite different then the demands of non-business environments.
>
> Please rest assured that many (probably most) of us know what the
> demands of business environments are.
>
> > Many open
> > source projects have yet to bridge this gulf and only a few have done it
> > sucessfully (apache web server, ant, log4j, tomcat, jboss). For example,
the
> > decision to NOT distribute a binary build of cocoon is a good example of
> > going in the opposite direction of business. Many business consultants
are
> > not interested in building source, but rather using the product as is.
>
> Oh, gosh... will not distributing a binary build be enough for us not to
> "cross the bridge"? Let's have a party on this side of the river with
> Linus then. Oh, and please tell me where you are going to find Gnome or
> KDE binary distributions (RPM, DEB and other linux distro packages don't
> count). And tell the FreeBSD guys that their port system is doomed.
>
> Anyway, here is your binary distribution:
>
> $ cat > setup.sh
> ./build.sh war > install.log 2>&1
> if [ $? == 0 ]
> then
>    echo "Installation successful, Cocoon war installed in
> `pwd`/build/cocoon.war"
> else
>    echo "Installation failed, plese check install.log for details"
> fi
> ^D
>
> Rant apart, you might have a point in blaming Cocoon of not being
> "business friendly", and I'm starting to consider that there might be
> room for someone to come up and be Cocoon's RedHat, providing
> "production" builds and "certified" WARs, thus relieving the Cocoon
> community in these issues. Any Orixians listening? ;-))
>
> Ciao,
>
> -- 
> Gianugo Rabellino
> Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
> Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
>      (Now blogging at: http://blogs.cocoondev.org/gianugo/)
>
>




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