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From "Robert Simmons" <robert.simm...@norcom.de>
Subject Re: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion
Date Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:35:14 GMT
To be honest, the condescending attitude you display here doesnt help me
feel warm and fuzzy all over. I can take criticism. Can you? But then I
think I will drop this convewrsation as it likely doesnt belong in this
list.

-- Robert

"Steven Noels" <stevenn@outerthought.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0308281320041.17384-100000@cocoondev.org...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
>
> > It is .. Ive been wrong before and I admit Im no Avalon or cocoon source
> > code expert. Im very direct in my style and I wish people wouldnt take
it
> > offensively. I merely abhor cheerleading. There are lots of things I
love
> > about cocoon but the logging irritates me. *shrug* =^)
>
> From someone who learned this himself the hard way:
>
> In an email conversation, don't expect your recipients to cope with 'your
> style' just because you have explained them you mean no harm, and you
> 'just happen to be direct'.
>
> I find it much more effective if you try and shape your style towards
> optimal reception by your recipients: not by easy excuses for your
> directness, but by showing _you_ are aware of this directness, and are
> willing to tone down in respect for your recipients.
>
> I'll now refrain from helping you in getting connected with this
> community, and I do hope you are able to flex your directness into a more
> positive style of communication.
>
> Don't expect us to feel honoured just by your presence. The fact you are
> coming back says all.
>
> With the best intentions,
>
> Cheers,
>
> </Steven>
>
>




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