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From "Sonny Sukumar" <ahimsad...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
Date Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:20:54 GMT

Is there a document that explains line by line what each of the entries in 
build.properties is?  Some of them weren't clear to me, so I just guessed 
whether I needed them or not.

>From: Geoff Howard <cocoon@leverageweb.com>
>Reply-To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>CC: dev@cocoon.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
>Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 18:21:17 -0400
>
>Sam Chance wrote:
>>As a user...the binary is essential.  I understand it makes it easier for
>>the developers, but I think the issue needs to be revisited with an intent
>>to distribute a binary.
>
>Ok, first of all - I hear you and will raise this issue again on the dev 
>list. (cc'd).  Can I ask you to elaborate on why you think the one step 
>build is just out of the question for you?  Is it the ease of first use 
>when evaluating?  Is it the build time?  Is there something not provided 
>that is needed?  Honestly, everyone has been very open minded about this 
>but had a hard time coming up with a quantifiable reason.
>
>But also,
>- just to reiterate.  This was not meant to make it easier on the 
>developers, but the users.  It was observed that Cocoon is not really a 
>thing that you just "use" -- it's a framework that lets you develop 
>something.  And starting that process was very painful with a binary 
>distribution and it is much better with the current one.  There is just so 
>much in the distribution that any one person doesn't need all of it.
>- this was never intended as a permanent direction for Cocoon.  The arrival 
>of hot-pluggable "real" blocks in (probably) the next release will give the 
>best of both worlds.
>
>Geoff
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Derek Hohls [mailto:dhohls@csir.co.za]
>>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:13 AM
>>To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
>>
>>The explanation given here is *not* an explanation
>>at all - not all of us are subscribers to the developers
>>list and so are not party to the discussions that prompted
>>this decision - perhaps one of the developers can
>>summarise the issues and update the website - then the
>>rest of us can have  a chance to comment.
>>
>>PS If you do decide to not release a binary verrsion, then
>>you certainly should remove the link to the
>>Binary distributions archive (link on this page)
>>
>>>>>vadim.gritsenko@verizon.net 15/08/2003 06:39:43 >>>
>>
>>Frans Thamura wrote:
>>
>>>Where is the binary???
>>
>>http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi
>>Second paragraph.
>>
>>
>>Vadim
>
>
>
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