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From Geoff Howard <>
Subject Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
Date Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:21:17 GMT
Sam Chance wrote:
> As a user...the binary is essential.  I understand it makes it easier for
> the developers, but I think the issue needs to be revisited with an intent
> to distribute a binary.

Ok, first of all - I hear you and will raise this issue again on the dev 
list. (cc'd).  Can I ask you to elaborate on why you think the one step 
build is just out of the question for you?  Is it the ease of first use 
when evaluating?  Is it the build time?  Is there something not provided 
that is needed?  Honestly, everyone has been very open minded about this 
but had a hard time coming up with a quantifiable reason.

But also,
- just to reiterate.  This was not meant to make it easier on the 
developers, but the users.  It was observed that Cocoon is not really a 
thing that you just "use" -- it's a framework that lets you develop 
something.  And starting that process was very painful with a binary 
distribution and it is much better with the current one.  There is just 
so much in the distribution that any one person doesn't need all of it.
- this was never intended as a permanent direction for Cocoon.  The 
arrival of hot-pluggable "real" blocks in (probably) the next release 
will give the best of both worlds.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Hohls []
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:13 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
> The explanation given here is *not* an explanation
> at all - not all of us are subscribers to the developers
> list and so are not party to the discussions that prompted
> this decision - perhaps one of the developers can
> summarise the issues and update the website - then the
> rest of us can have  a chance to comment.
> PS If you do decide to not release a binary verrsion, then
> you certainly should remove the link to the
> Binary distributions archive (link on this page)
>>>> 15/08/2003 06:39:43 >>>
> Frans Thamura wrote:
>>Where is the binary???
> Second paragraph.
> Vadim

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