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From Steven Noels <>
Subject Re: Discussion of Cocoon TLP Guidelines
Date Mon, 04 Aug 2003 12:57:37 GMT
On 4/08/2003 14:02 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

>>>  - rules and guidelines for incubating projects, w.r.t. PMC
>>> participation, cohabitation with Incubator guidelines
> I would say that we remove that paragraph and avoid dealing with it  
> altogether.

> the part of new subprojects as well. if somebody asks, we send them to  
> incubation right away.

If the concept and process of incubation is properly defined and offers 
more than bouncing off the ball to the incubating PMC, I would be 
perfectly happy with that. So far, I think it is reasonable to say that 
the Incubator is still FUD with the prospect of becoming something 
valuable. Also, I loath to see projects being incubated without a clear 
destination PMC in mind. While you are absolutely correct in theory, 
practice is teaching us something else, so I'd like to discuss this 
before moving either way. Off-loading work to a disfunctional project 
isn't a way to get the work done. Closely collaborating with the 
Incubator might be better, IMHO.

> well, too much mentioning of vetos, IMHO, but I can live with that.

Exactly - I will try and wordsmith along that way. Vetos are community 
killers and a discourse of distrust.

Steven Noels                  
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