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From Christian Haul <>
Subject Re: Discussion of Cocoon TLP Guidelines
Date Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:26:18 GMT
On 29.Jul.2003 -- 11:05 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
> Dear all,
> I've just checked in a verbatim copy of the Jakarta Guidelines (located 
> at in the cocoon-site 
> module, that could serve as a starter to base our own project guidelines 
> upon. Before we became a TLP (top level project), we were supposed to 
> follow the XML TLP guidelines (which are currently under debate, a 
> decent RC can be found at 

> but after reading both, I believe the Jakarta guidelines might be a good 
> foundation to start working from. The guidelines are supposed to regulate 
> the day-to-day operations of the Cocoon TLP, which of course includes any 
> existing and possible new subprojects.
> So in an attempt to start the debate about the Cocoon TLP guidelines, I 
> copy/paste/search/replaced through the Jakarta set of guidelines, and 
> provide this as a starter for further discussions.
> Our DRAFT version is located at 

Thanks Steven,
it reads quite good.

Two points in addition to Carsten's: It states that "new features"
need to be voted before committing. I believe that this is either
unpractical (and sure not happening ATM) or/and not precise
enough. Perhaps "major new features" would be better, but then, what's
"major"? OK, it's only a guideline....

Second, I feel tieing it so close to cvs and in particular wincvs is a
little bit too strict. I'm quite looking forward to switch to
subversion at some point :-)

> Some topics which, IMHO, need further debate are:
>  - PMC composition and rules for admitting new PMC members (currently, 
> any committer can self.propose() to become a member of the PMC, and any 
> committer is allowed on the PMC list - but we need to discuss, maybe 
> change and at the very least formalize this)

Honestly, I believe that self.propose() is a very good way of doing
it. We should change this only when we encounter problems with this
model. Therefore I suggest to change the paragraphs accordingly.

>  - rules and guidelines for incubating projects, w.r.t. PMC 
> participation, cohabitation with Incubator guidelines
>  - basically do a sanity check of the lenghty Jakarta original and see 
> what might be eradicated from it (less is more)

>  - check voting guidelines

Look fine.

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