Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 52749 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2003 20:09:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 52657 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 20:09:53 -0000 Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (213.228.0.169) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 20:09:53 -0000 Received: from anyware-tech.com (grenoble-1-62-147-75-19.dial.proxad.net [62.147.75.19]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1441BC20C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:09:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F1D9A15.9040204@anyware-tech.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:09:57 +0200 From: Sylvain Wallez Organization: Anyware Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: fr, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Comparing Woody & XMLForm : towards a unified form handling (long) References: <3F1C3471.9000508@anyware-tech.com> <1058891034.6422.231.camel@yum.ot> In-Reply-To: <1058891034.6422.231.camel@yum.ot> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Bruno Dumon wrote: >Hi Sylvain, > >thanks for starting this thread, hopefully it will clear up the current >situation around the multiple form frameworks. > >On a general note, and I understand that you know this, many arguments >of the comparison between the two change when you consider that in >XMLForm you should also have a separate form model and business model. >The security, inconsistency and (for a part) data conversion problems >dissapear and the extra work to copy between the form and business >models reappears (and also the statement about validations involving >form data and application data). > >I think that for the most part our form-vision corresponds, though I >have difficulties understanding your proposed changes. > > Thanks to Carsten, Marc and you for the positive feedback. Yes, I think we globally have the same vision and that we should be able to quickly come to a framework that should satisfy most people. As for my proposed changes, I started a quick'n dirty hack to showcase them. However, I'm still on vacation and only little of my time is available for Cocoon ;-) More soon, stay tuned. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com