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From Bruno Dumon <>
Subject Re: Woody-flow to FOM migration question
Date Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:41:33 GMT
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 06:37, Christopher Oliver wrote:
> Bruno Dumon wrote:
> >FOMmers, Chris mostly,
> >
> >I'm looking at porting the Woody-Flow integration to the FOM. This is
> >all new stuff for me, but just to check that I'm on the right track: is
> >it correct that things like new WebContinuation(...) and
> >cocoon.forwardTo(...) can now only be done in Java code?
> >  
> >
> Yes.
> >And that brings up a more essential point: the reason for not using
> >sendPageAndWait? I guess it's because of the tricks with the
> >lastWebContinuation thing,
> >
> Yep.
> > but I don't understand the purpose of that.
> >If my intuition is right it forces the parent continuation of the new
> >continuation to be the last created continuation for this form, rather
> >than the current continuation. There's a note that this will be used to
> >implement automated back navigation, but I don't get it yet. Could you
> >give some more explanation?
> >
> >  
> >
> The way it works is that a continuation is created immediately before a 
> page is sent and immediately after it is sent (the latter is just like 
> what sendPageAndWait does).
> To go "forward" in the form you invoke the latter continuation, again 
> just like sendPageAndWait().
> But to go "back" you invoke the continuation 3 levels higher in the tree:
>   level 0) causes the actions after the current page is submitted to be 
> performed (this is "forward", as above)
>   level 1) causes the current page to be resent
>   level 2) causes the actions after the previous page was submitted to 
> be performed
>   level 3) causes the previous page to be resent  (this is "back")
> So to implement automated back/forward navigation you simply encode the 
> continuation id and the desired action ("back" or "forward") somehow in 
> the form. Then when the form is submitted you invoke the appropriate 
> continuation.

Ah, now I see. Woody doesn't support (yet?) multi-page forms like jxform
does, so currently it serves only as a provision for the future.

Looking further, I see that in the JXForm implementation you work around
this by providing the methods makeWebContinuation() and forwardTo() as
part of the JXForm object. These methods don't seem to be related to the
JXForm object itself, but seem to be merely there to work around the
limitations of the FOM, and in the end the flowscript again does have
the same capability. Doesn't it make sense then to include them in the

Another problem I stumbled onto: Woody needs to be passed the Request
object (as part of the FormContext object but that doesn't matter now).
As is well known, flowscript doesn't give access to this. Looking at
JXForm again, I see again a similar workaround. I could do the same for
Woody of course, but it all starts to feel a bit unnatural...

(I didn't follow the early FOM discussions so please excuse my ignorance
about all this)

Then on a less related note: I noticed that the JXForm class uses the
Environment. Wasn't this interface supposed to be internal to Cocoon (I
don't consider a block to be Cocoon internals)? Maybe we should limit
the public interface of the FOM_Cocoon class?

Bruno Dumon                   
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center                

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