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From Reinhard Pötz <>
Subject RE: Alternatives to XMLForm: what's the state of art?
Date Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:05:35 GMT

From: Christopher Oliver 
> Reinhard Pötz wrote:
> >From: Christopher Oliver
> >  
> >  
> >
> >>JXForms supports the latest W3C XForms syntax (although not every
> >>construct). JXForms doesn't use XMLFormTransformer. Instead 
> >>it provides 
> >>its own generator (JXFormsGenerator) and transformer 
> >>(JXFormsTransformer). It uses the same Form object and validation 
> >>framework as XMLForm. However, it does not provide any actions.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Chris, can we deprecate the XMLFormTransformer in favour of the 
> >JXFormsTransformer?
> >
> Yes. I think so.
> >Does it provide any features that JXFormsTransformer
> >does not support?
> >  
> >
> The XMLFormTransformer doesn't. But XMLForm does provide an action 
> framework that JXForms does not. 

Isn't it possible to use this action framework with the form
of the JXForms package? I see no reason why this should not work.

> JXForms is intended to be used with 
> Flowscript. In addition, Ivelin added some features to the 
> version of XMLForm that JXForms doesn't have. If anyone wants these 
> features it should be easy enough to add to JXForms, though.
> >If the answer on the first question is yes, should we release it at 
> >all? What would this mean for our users?
> >
> JXForms is not backward compatible with XMLForm. But neither 
> is Ivelin's 
> latest version of XMLForm. Still, I don't know what the reaction of 
> users would be.

So my question is: What *exactly* do we provide within the XMLForms
block in Cocoon 2.1?

I propose:

  - the form implementation (,, ...)
  - the validation classes (,,,
  - controller A: flow scripts (from the JXForms package)
  - controller B: action framework (from the existing XMLForms block)
  - example 1 (wizard using controller A)
  - example 2 (wizard using controller B but the pages are generated
    using the JXFormsTransformer)
  - documentation (TBD)
  - updates to the latest W3C XForms syntax (if anything is open and
    we have the time to do it ...)

> With regard to a "release", the main thing missing from both 
> XMLForm and 
> JXForms, in my opinion, is documentation.

You are absulutly right :-(


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