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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: Link view goodness (Re: residuals of MIME type bug ?)
Date Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:57:38 GMT

Jeff Turner wrote, On 28/06/2003 3.59:
> I hope I've convinced you :)  Certainly for simpler needs, hardcoding
> a LinkGathererTransformer is fine, but in general (and I hope where
> Forrest is going) we need the full power of a link view.

Sorry Jeff, but I don't have time nor energy to dwelve into this 
discussion further. I'm getting a bit tired about it too.
Don't get me wrong, it's not about you, it's just that sometimes one 
loses interest in some things.

So please excuse me if I won't reply to your points and I just only 
present MHO.

First of all, all I want is speed and less memory usage. At least the 
same speed we are now getting with the new CLI. If any alternative 
scheme can be devised to get to comparable speed and possibly memory 
usage, I'm *completely* fine with it.
IIUC What came out of the initial "new CLI" dicussion is that a single 
pass can be regarded as both technically and conceptually better.

Secondly, it seems to me that you are mixing conceptual decisions with 
what are in fact just implementation "details".
Things you have pointed out, like fixed gatherer position for example, 
are just fruit of the initial implementation, not a thorough and 
important design decision, and thus have still to be improved upon and 
testes in the real world (for us it's Forrest).
This is the sole reason why I ask you to read that thread. It explains 
the design decisions, and can help you in not necessarily 
re-investigating stuff that has already been fruitfully discussed.

Finally, the new CLI is a WIP, so I applaud your effort in getting it 
better, so that it does not throw out the baby (link view) with the 
water (3 pass generation).
I'm trying to see that in this process also the new features of the CLI 
(one pass gathering) are not thrown out themselves in the process of 
saving the baby ;-)

Ciao :-)

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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