Thanks Berin & Neeme. Sounds like a move to Fortress after 2.1
is a great move. Maybe the process of the move itself will be
helpful to me (and others) in getting my head around the container
more.
Geoff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neeme Praks [mailto:neeme@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Cocoon and upgrading to Fortress
>
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> And, I would draw the following comparison: Fortress is to ECM what
> Merlin will be for Phoenix.
> * ECM is embeddable, so is Fortress
> * Phoenix is stand-alone server, so is Merlin
> * and, you can use Fortress inside Merlin (for component management),
> but not the other way around
> (of course it is probably possible to embed Merlin's component manager
> in Cocoon, but that doesn't make much sense without the rest of Merlin,
> IMHO),
>
> Rgds,
> Neeme
>
> Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
> >> - What is Merlin in comparison to Fortress? IIRC I have seen proposals
> >> to move to this in the past. (I have the feeling I am stepping into
> >> something on this one - I am truly ignorant).
> >
> >
> > There are a couple things to consider:
> >
> > 1) Fortress is released, and it was designed to help people migrate
> > from ECM based solutions.
> >
> > 2) Fortress allows you to slowly migrate to solutions where you have
> > default components--which means you can bypass the ServiceSelector
> > step if you only use one DataSourceComponent. Fortress will make
> > sure that components designed for both situations will continue
> > to work.
> >
> > 3) Merlin is not released yet--it is fully functional, and there is
> > alot to like about it, but it is not officially supported yet.
> >
> > 4) Merlin was not designed to help people migrate from ECM based
> > systems like Cocoon. You can consider Fortress to be a stepping
> > stone towards a more compatible future.
> >
> > I am not dogging Merlin. I am saying that jumping directly to
> > Merlin from ECM is going to be a major culture shock--something
> > that can be avoided.
> >
> >
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