Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 57611 invoked by uid 500); 20 May 2003 11:38:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 57582 invoked from network); 20 May 2003 11:38:04 -0000 Received: from fia224-72.dsl.hccnet.nl (HELO foem.leiden.webweaving.org) (62.251.72.224) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 20 May 2003 11:38:04 -0000 Received: from foem (IDENT:chuckwebweaving.org@foem [10.11.0.2]) by foem.leiden.webweaving.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4KBc3v7087633 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 13:38:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:38:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-X-Sender: dirkx@foem To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: RE: [OT] What is OSS [was: Cocoon Stammtisch] In-Reply-To: <84F0A43A4248CE45B5C0E20F4C40779C346AF2@naomi.webworks.nl> Message-ID: <20030520133515.C83374-100000@foem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 20 May 2003, [iso-8859-1] Arj� Cahn wrote: > - If the codebase is not freely available (according to the 10 OSI > rules), then it's not open source (== not OSI Open Source). - What you > pay for should be the *support on* the open source software. This > includes documentation, tools, updates, etcetera. It's like taking an > insurance. You can't pay for the Open Source Software itself (that > wouldn't make sense), but you pay for the support and security that > someone will keep it running for you. > > Of course, this is our opinion. Discussion would be appreciated. With that definition one will have to find a new name for open source *based* software, like for example IBM Websphere, Covalent Enterprize Server or RedHats Stronghold. I.e. software which is baed on open source software; sticks to most, if not all of the API's - but adds small bits of proprietary/restricted code. Whill still preserving enough of the open source spirit to prevent vendor lock in - and to give assurances to the customers that if the vendor goes bust; the critical parts of his infrastructure can be replaced by the original open source components Dw