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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: Status of XMLForm in Cocoon
Date Tue, 20 May 2003 12:23:26 GMT
Hi Sylvain,

Le Mardi, 20 mai 2003, à 13:38 Europe/Zurich, 
<> a écrit :
> ...In your opinion, XMLForm is going to be forgotten from the Cocoon 
> team...

I didn't say that - what I said is that this *might* happen unless 
there is a concrete move from the team (or some third 
party) that allows XMLForm to stay alive here without needing two 
parallel code bases. Again, merging code won't work, using external 
components can work.

What might also happen is that the current Cocoon xmlform block evolves 
independently of Would be a plain fork then, sad and 

It's more a question of people and communities than a technical problem.

> So, what is the best for people who use this solution at this time?
> - go to, but we don't have Cocoon features anymore (is it 
> possible to have both?)
> - stay inside Cocoon but, as you said, the project doesn't seem to 
> move forward (actually the list doesn't seem to be very active about 
> it)

Both are suboptimal options. A fork is a bad thing and unfortunately 
you seem to be caught in its consequences.

A third option would be for you or your company to jump in an 
contribute to the re-integration of into Cocoon, by 
refactoring what's here to use the components as external 
libraries (provided the license allows it, but I think it 
is the case).

If this happens, would be in the same position as Chaperon 
and jfor for example, which (try to) live outside of Cocoon but are 
used here through clean interfaces.

A fourth option, depending on where you're at in your project, would be 
to contribute to the new woody form stuff that is being developed and 
looks to me like it will get more support from the Cocoon team, due to 
the community wounds created by the xmlform fork (that's how I see it 
personally, not speaking for the team).

This is Open Source - unless people "vote with their code" nothing 

> I'm a bit worried about future.

Understandable, this fork is a sad thing, but the door is open for 
people to help solve this.


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