Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 43219 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2003 12:05:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 43204 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2003 12:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO trinity.anyware-tech.com) (217.112.237.100) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 2003 12:05:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12446 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2003 12:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anyware-tech.com) (10.1.0.254) by trinity.anyware-tech.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2003 12:05:46 -0000 Message-ID: <3E92BB19.8050103@anyware-tech.com> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:05:45 +0200 From: Sylvain Wallez Organization: Anyware Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: fr, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: Resigning from Cocoon PMC Chair References: <3E92790E.6030801@dff.st> In-Reply-To: <3E92790E.6030801@dff.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Torsten Curdt wrote: > Matthew Langham wrote: > >>>> If Steven had not put up his hand, then he would have been >>>> proposed anyway. Are there any other proponents >>> >>> >>> I propose and would vote for Carsten Ziegler, and Sylvain if he doesn't >>> want to. >> > > Geez! Carsten, Steven, Sylvain... > ...that's not an easy vote :-/ Yep. Not easy. So let's simplify it... First of all, I must say that I'm *very honoured* to see people spontaneously proposing me for the PMC chair. This makes me realize that I have a place in this community whose importance I heavily underestimated. And this feels good ;-) Now, although honoured, and after having some deep thoughts (hence this late reply), I don't want to be the PMC chair. There are several reasons for this, which I explain below, in no particular order. Personality. I'm much better at technical things than at managing and organizing. I consider that most of the job of the PMC chair is composed of legalese, reports and discussions with the ASF board. This isn't my cup of tea and I don't think I would be very good at that. There's also arbitration, which I may be better at. But this community rarely needs arbitration. And it these rare occasions, we're most of the time able to solve the problems through discussion and consensus. Time. It has been said that being a PMC chair doesn't require so much time. But I know myself : things that I must do but I find boring take me twice (or more) the time really necessary to do them. I prefer using my time available for Cocoon to more technical tasks. I also have a job and a life which, although Cocoon is a part of them, I need to dedicate time to. Steven's candidature. I know Steven personally and appreciate him. Some people seem not to like him, but we have to consider that only those that do nothing never make mistakes. Steven participates to a lot of things related to the ASF organization and this inevitably means that some of his actions are not well perceived. But my overall opinion is that Steven is the right person for the tasks that a PMC chairman has to do. He also set up several good things for the Cocoon community : last year's gettogether, the Cocoon wiki, etc. Also, and I don't want to this to be taken as a criticism, I consider Steven more suited for the chairman job than Carsten. I also know Carsten personally and appreciate him, and think he's the same kind of person as I am : a very good technician. And since the chairman job is more organizational than technical, someone with strong organizational abilities seems to me a better choice. Now these are my personal opinions, and the community will choose. Cheers, Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }