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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: [ANN] XMLForm as a standalone servlet toolkit
Date Sat, 29 Mar 2003 05:28:44 GMT
On Friday 28 March 2003 17:45, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> On 28/3/03 6:54 am, "Kevin O'Neill" <> wrote:
> > 5. Products  derived from this software may not  be called "Apache", nor
> > may "Apache" appear  in their name,  without prior written permission  of
> > the Apache Software Foundation.

> It is not 4 in my own opinion... I believe it's more point 5:

> "Apache" may not appear in the name of a product derived from this
> software: clearly a single Java class is an entity of its own... If it's a
> modified version of our copy it's a "derived product" and the derived
> product name (only THAT class I can download through CVS) is
> "org.apache.abcde.MyOwn"...

Yeah, I think it is rather safe to say that if you "derive" from Apache code 
you can not use 
package org.apache...
without permission.
Irony is, if you don't derive from Apache sources, I strongly doubt that the 
Sun "package name recommendations" will hold up in court, and I doubt that 
ASF will challange such.

There is actually a twist here.
If I derive the class with an additional line of code, 
would I then have to move the class elsewhere, and change the 200 references 
in other classes, and by modifying those classes, have to move all other 
classes as well??
If so, then I am violating the Apache license in my JServ hack to serve WML 


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