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From David Crossley <>
Subject Re: [ANN] XMLForm as a standalone servlet toolkit
Date Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:06:36 GMT
ivelin wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> > Exactly. Then again, Ivelin is looking into making XMLForm
> > independent from Cocoon IIUC from the freebuilder CVS.
> > I don't know whether a branch
> > would liberate him sufficiently enough (which is if course
> > not our concern).
> The goal is to be able to enhance this module without having
> to worry about other moving parts of Cocoon.
> A stable naked cocoon would work fine if there was one.
> Perhabs when all the blocks clean up is finished that will be feasible.
> Another option is to have a stable 2.1, which proved not realistic.

It would be realistic if we all spent time to help.

You are not the only one who has been affected by the
process to strengthen the Cocoon-2.1 foundations. When it
went unstable we all had issues and our own work was slowed.

The difference is that we all chipped in as part of the
community to help finish the re-factoring. All that we
heard from you was bleating from the sidelines, urging us
to release a product that is not ready.


> > Code developed _outside_ this community always needs to go through
> > explicit donation/copyright transfer before being able to be contributed
> > to the Cocoon project. And it seems like Ivelin was taking this
> > recontribution for granted.
> Not taking anything for granted.
> I've been around for a while and have a good idea how the community works.

This current debacle is demonstrating that you may not know.



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