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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:04:27 +0100 (CET)
From: Giacomo Pati <giacomo@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [VOTE:PMC]  Proposal for Lenya as a Cocoon subproject
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+1

Giacomo

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

>
> I'm asking the Cocoon PMC to vote for the inclusion of the below
> proposed project named Lenya (ex wyona.org) as a Cocoon subproject.
>
> This vote will take place on cocoon-dev where the Cocoon PMC lives.
> I'm CCing the incubator list just to notify that we're starting this
> vote. When finished, I'll post there the results.
>
> Cocoon PMC members, please state your votes.
>
> Here's mine: +1
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Proposal for Lenya
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:01:16 +0100
> From: Michael Wechner <michael.wechner@wyona.org>
> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>
> Dear Incubator List
>
> Here's our proposal for _Lenya_ (plz see below), a Content Management
> System based on Cocoon. The proposal can also be viewed as HTML at:
>
> http://www.wyona.org/lenya.html
>
> Relevant Links are also:
>
> http://www.wyona.org/docs/xdocs/architecture.html
>
> http://www.wyona.org/roadmap.html
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Proposal for Lenya, A Cocoon Subproject (via Incubator)
>
>
> Date:
>
> 14 February 2003
>
>
> Authors:
>
> Gregor J. Rothfuss
>    (gregor.rothfuss@wyona.org)
>
> Michael H. Wechner
>    (michael.wechner@wyona.org)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Rationale
>
>
> Lenya is a content management system built around open standards
> like XML and XSLT. It is currently based on the XML publishing and
> application framework Cocoon.
>
> One of the core philosophies is to avoid lock-in.
> You should be able to switch the CMS at any time.
> Lenya, unlike other Content Management Systems, goes the extra mile to make
> sure that its contents and functionalities can easily be migrated (or
> exchanged with) to and from other
> systems.
> This means that all components (access controller, revision controller,
> scheduler, etc.) are also based on XML.
>
> Another core philosophy is to make the CMS as user-friendly as possible.
> This has already been achieved quite well by the Lenya menubar, which
> allows the user/editor to navigate within the original publication.
> The menubar is the only UI element to learn by a human editor.
> Through the implementation of the WYSIWYG editor software Xopus (and
> Bitflux), Lenya makes editing
> XML documents effortless even for non-technical users.
>
> Lenya fits nicely into a multi-tier architecture made up of various ASF
> projects:
>
>
>
> Xopus <--> Lenya <--> Cocoon <--> Slide <-->  Xindice
>
> where
>
> Xopus:   WYSIWYG Editor (subject to another incubator proposal)
> Lenya:   Content Management System
> Cocoon:  XML Publishing and Application Framework
> Slide:   Content Management Framework (WebDAV and Content Repository API)
> Xindice: XML Content Store
>
>
>
> Lenya leverages existing Apache projects as parts of its multi-tier
> architecture,
> whereas the editor (e.g. Xopus) and the content store (e.g. Xindice) are
> replaceable
> by any other interface compliant editor resp. content store. Lenya
> already supports
> more than one editor (Xopus, Bitflux and HTML-Form-Editor). More
> information on
> the architecture is available at
> http://www.wyona.org/docs/xdocs/architecture.html.
>
> Lenya was formerly known as Wyona CMS, but out of respect and to avoid
> branding collisions with the commercial entity Wyona
> (http://www.wyona.com), the CMS project  will be renamed to Lenya.
> More information on the Wyona CMS project is available at
> http://www.wyona.org.
>
> Criteria
>
>
> Meritocracy:
> Design decisions are discussed on the Lenya developers mailing
> list, and are taken with an eye towards easy integration with
> underlying technologies such as Cocoon and Slide in mind. Input
> from the community is regularly explicitly requested and is
> incorporated into the roadmap.
>
> Current Community:
> The Lenya community consists of the employees of Wyona AG,
> its customers, third-party developers and interested
> individuals. At this time, there are 78 individuals on the
> Lenya developers mailing list and 149 individuals on the Lenya users
> mailing list.
>
> Deployment:
> -NZZ (the most prestigious newspaper of Switzerland, http://www.nzz.ch)
> -University of Zurich (http://www.unipublic.unizh.ch)
> -Computerworld (http://www.computerworld.ch)
> -OSCOM (Open Source Content Management, http://www.oscom.org/matrix/
>
> Core Developers:
> Michael Wechner developed the first version of Lenya in 1999.
> By the end of 2001 Michael Wechner ported Lenya on top of Cocoon with
> the help of Giacomo Pati and Memo Birgi.
> 5 developers at Wyona AG contribute to the Wyona project on a regular
> basis, and there
> are also external committers.
>
> Alignment:
> Lenya is based on and built around several Apache projects,
> and is licensed under the Apache Software License.
>
> Scope:
> Develop Lenya as (a currently missing) part of a multi-tier architecture for
> content management, made up of various ASF projects.
>
> Warning Signs
>
>
> Orphaned code:
> Lenya has some dead code predating its port to Cocoon, but we are
> refactoring it as we speak.
> We aim to use even more
> Apache software in the future, gradually ripping out our
> home-brewed code.
>
> Inexperience:
> The orginal creator/author of Lenya, Michael Wechner, has been working
> with XML technologies and Java for over 5 years. The first
> version of Lenya predated Coccon, and he actually wrote his own
> XML pipeline processor before he gladly left that part to Cocoon.
> Other core contributors have years of experience in writing web
> applications in various languages and environments
> (Java, PHP, Perl, ASP *GASP* and other, forgotten languages)
> and are very active in the open source community (cocooncenter,
> Postnuke/Xaraya, OSCOM, etc.).
>
> Homogeneous Developers:
> Our developers have very diverse backgrounds, bringing very
> different opinions about "the right way to do it" to the project.
> This results in lively discussions as more options are evaluated.
>
> Reliance on Salaried Developers:
> While the most part of developement activities originates from
> Wyona AG, there are also external contributors. The aim
> is thus to strenghten and diversify the developer base.
>
> No ties to other Apache Products:
> See above, Lenya makes extensive use of Apache technologies.
>
> Fascination with Apache Brand:
> We at Lenya both marvel at the technical skills of the Apache
> projects, and its love for standards.
> Being proponents of Java and XML technologies, and due to our
> own  experiences working in various open source projects,
> we feel that we see eye to eye with Apache.
>
> Scope
>
>
> The aim of the Lenya project is to produce a content management
> system that is clearly superior to alternatives in the areas
> where we want to focus. Our roadmap explains it in more detail
> (http://www.wyona.org/roadmap.html).
> We understand that a CMS cannot be a thing to all people, and we
> are aware of both our strengths and weaknesses.
>
> We believe that it is possible to create an XML(-Java)-based CMS that
> has both excellent technological foundations, yet is easy to use.
> Current efforts fall short in various ways.
> A closer cooperation with other Apache projects
> will allow us to concentrate even more on our strengths and will
> help us to overcome current pitfalls.
>
> Initial Source
>
> The initial source from which the subproject is to be populated is
> located at http://www.wyona.org.
>
> ASF Resources
>
>
> Mailing Lists
>
>
> lenya-users
>
> lenya-dev
>
> lenya-cvs
>
> lenya-docs
>
> Currently, there are mailing lists at
> http://mail.wyona.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo.
>
> CVS
>
>
> cocoon-lenya
>
> Currently, there is a CVS at http://cvs.wyona.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi.
>
> Bugzilla
>
>
>
> Currently, there is a bugzilla at http://cvs.wyona.org/bugs/.
>
>
> Inital Committers
>
>
> J�rgen Bigalke
>    (juergen@bigalke.de)
>
> Memo Birgi
>    (memo@otego.com)
>
> Edith Chevrier
>    (edith.chevrier@wyona.com)
>
> Christian Egli
>    (christian.egli@wyona.com)
>
> Andreas Hartmann
>    (ah@cocooncenter.org)
>
> Marc Liyanage
>    (liyanage@access.ch)
>
> Felix M�der
>    (felix.maeder@wyona.com)
>
> Giacomo Pati
>    (giacomo@apache.org)
>
> Gregor J. Rothfuss
>    (gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com)
>
> Thorsten Scherler
>    (thorsten.scherler@weidmueller.de)
>
> Michael Wechner
>    (michael.wechner@wyona.org)
>
> Apache Sponsors
>
>
> Stefano Mazzocchi
>    (stefano@apache.org)
>
> Nicola Ken Barozzi
>    (nicolaken@apache.org)
>
> Open Issues
>
>
> Clarify the multi-tier architecture.
>
> Refine scope with regard to other Apache projects.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>