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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:57:35 +0000
Subject: Re: [New build system] Status of samples
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From: Jeremy Quinn <jeremy@media.demon.co.uk>
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On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Finally, I think the Cocoon build should also allow you to build your 
> own cocoon web site. In this case, your stuff should becomes nothing 
> different from a microblock. (please, don't start using this 
> terminology, it sucks, it's just to give you the idea)
>

I completely agree. (but I have no suggestions for a solution, sorry)

One of the trickiest things to do with Cocoon is to update an existing 
webapp with a new version of the code and configs. The configs pose the 
largest problem. 1) they change often, 2) you often have to modify them 
with your own datasources (etc.).

While it is important to have a simple build, so you can see it works 
out of the box (as we have now), I am looking at the scenario whereby a 
user wants to update an existing cocoon installation with a fresh 
update from CVS, first for testing, then for production. Or wants to 
build an installation of samples.

so I see 4 common scenarios :

1) a 'test' build and run (we have that and it's great!)
2) a 'samples' build and run
3) an 'update' build and run (on an internal testing port)
4) an 'update' build and run (on a production port)

Where the 'update' build will build _into_ an existing webapp, or for 
testing, build _using_ an existing webapp. (Where 'webapp' obviously 
means the set of sitemaps/xslt/xml etc.)


I am sorry I do not actually have any solutions, I am just thinking 
about what I reckon people want to be able to do easily.


Thanks for all the hard work you are putting in.

regards Jeremy