Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 78789 invoked by uid 500); 27 Feb 2003 10:27:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 78776 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 10:27:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pulse.betaversion.org) (217.158.110.65) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 10:27:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26648 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 10:27:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO apache.org) (stefano@80.105.91.155) by pulse.betaversion.org with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 10:27:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3E5DE845.6010904@apache.org> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:28:21 +0100 From: Stefano Mazzocchi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030202 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: [FYI] M$ Office 2003 and XML References: <3E5D21BD.1030106@apache.org> <200302271334.17375.niclas@hedhman.org> In-Reply-To: <200302271334.17375.niclas@hedhman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Thursday 27 February 2003 04:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnofftalk/ >>html/office12092002.asp > > > Office 97 released 1997. > Office 99 released 1999. > Office 11 released 2011?? No, Office 11 is the codename for Office 2003 (99 was 10 and 97 was 9) > The main drive for changing the format is to generate revenue. "My business > contacts has the new Office, and I can't open their documents, I need to > upgrade..." Yes. > However, the change to XML can be the downfall for the never-ending > upgrade-cycle forced upon Office-users, as small tools on the net will make > back-conversions.... I think Microsoft is all but stupid and it plans to change their reveue stream entirely to subscription services, which are much more predictable. To do this, they have, at least, to impose .NET and teach XML to the world. > The second assault will come from OSS projects, which now will have a clean > view into the formats, and should be able to reproduce Office documents much > better than is currently the case. UNFORTUNATELY, I think (hope not) some > tags will contain crucial data in some arcaic binary format, only useful to > COM services in the OS. Yep. Did you know it was microsoft that wanted Processing Instruction back into the XML spec? What would you do with this: > Long live the XML revolution. Yeah, it will, unfortunately, never end :/ Welcome to Babel! -- Stefano Mazzocchi Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate [William of Ockham] --------------------------------------------------------------------