Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 30793 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2003 18:37:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 30739 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 18:37:05 -0000 Received: from smtp02.myhosting.com (168.144.68.182) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 18:37:05 -0000 Received: from Lagrange ([195.163.30.159]) by smtp02.myhosting.com (Merak 5.5.7) with SMTP id KIC74160 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:37:09 -0500 From: "Leo Sutic" To: Subject: RE: cocoon deps on avalon (Re: [RT] what cocoon is doing wrong) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:40:52 +0100 Message-ID: <006901c2ddc6$978b5830$0801a8c0@Lagrange> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Recently on avalon-dev I expressed my concerns about their habit of > moving stuff around for elegance-sake, but I'm starting to think that > Cocoon is abusing avalon and this places too much pressure on their > shoulders. > > Example: the instrumentation. The Cocoon core is based on code that has > never been released. So, Avalon has the right to move it around (and > screw us). But I don't think it's *their* fault, it's entirely ours. I think there's enough blame for both projects. Cocoon has built on unreleased code, and Avalon has had a terrible track record of releasing stuff... I think the meaning behind your comments on dev@avalon were justified, although I think the situation is not getting worse, it is getting better. /LS