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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: [RT] what cocoon is doing wrong
Date Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:55:52 GMT
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> First, Stefano, relax - I didn't want to attack you directly.
> Don't assume that all my comments were hinting at something you did!

Sorry but it looked pretty personal to me.

Apologies if it was not the case.

>>Moving the SourceFactory to Avalon made a mess. This is what I'm mostly
>>concerned at the moment. What is the status of this?
> I personally don't see that it made a mess.

Change line 192 of the current build.xml file from

    <path location="${deprecated.src}"/>
    <path location="${build.src}"/>
    <path location="${java}"/>


    <!--path location="${deprecated.src}"/-->
    <path location="${build.src}"/>
    <path location="${java}"/>

and recompile.

You'll see what I consider a mess.

I don't necessarely blame the Source refactoring since it could well be 
that some files were moved to 'deprecated' even if they didn't belong 
there. I would like to hear your opinion on this since you know the 
internals of this stuff more than I do.

> Ok, but let's not argue about
> that. The status is that the move is finished, the avalon version is stable
> and can be released as 1.0 immediately - all parts in the core of Cocoon
> are using the avalon version, and the old cocoon version is deprecated but
> of course still supported.

So, why we can't compile the core without the deprecated classes?

Deprecated classes should depend on core (obviously) and should be 
packaged separately for those who need back compatibility, but should 
not block the core compilation.

>>Do others believe that I acted on my personal behalf against community
> What do you want to achieve with this question?

I just want to know if others believed that I did refactoring against 
the will of this community.

I believe that sometimes somebody has to step up and do stuff, at the 
same time I don't want to step on anybody's toes doing this.

I want to know if somebody feels like I'm doing this but remains silent 
because of any reason.

Stefano Mazzocchi                               <>
    Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate [William of Ockham]

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