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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: Cocoon sandbox @ Sourceforge? (Re: [Proposal] Cocoon Sandbox)
Date Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:08:11 GMT

Jeff Turner wrote, On 26/02/2003 10.39:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:05:02AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>>So, to try and bring together all positions, by fulfilling the *needs* 
>>with a new implementation, I would propose (taking some points from 
>>Jeff's proposal):
>> - Cocoon moves scratchpad to a new CVS module cocoon-sandbox
>>   under cocoon-sandbox/src/java/**
>> - We move all alpha blocks to cocoon-sandbox/src/blocks/**
>> - we add Forrest-based documantation to teh scratchpad and
>>   each block
>> - for every piece of alpha-quality code (block, scratchpad segment),
>>   we could have a status file (as Tony Collen suggested) in the
>>   documentation indicating things like:
>>   - code proposal initiators
>>   - description (eg links to mailing list discussions)
>>   - lease expiry
>>This will IMHO:
>> - make alpha code clearly marked (I'm happy)
>> - keep possibility of sperimenting out of the core
>>   (Jeff, Ovidiu and I are happy)
>> - keep sandbox out of main CVS module and make code
>>   not rot (Stefano's happy)
> How about making one modification to this proposal...
> Host the Cocoon sandbox at Sourceforge, instead of Apache.  Call it
> cocoon-contrib or something.


> Why?  Because then anyone can participate.  It tears down any perceived
> barrier between cocoon-dev and cocoon-users.  Best of all, when code
> eventually is 'promoted', there is a strong possibility of gaining new
> Cocoon developers.  Think of it as housing "alpha committers" as well as
> "alpha code".  

It seems very interesting.

> The root problem is that Cocoon has more code than code maintainers.  The
> long-term solution is not to juggle the code more effectively, but to
> gain more committers.  THAT is why I think a cocoon-contrib @ sourceforge
> would be a win in the long run.
> Thoughts?

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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