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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: Proposal for Lenya
Date Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:51:59 GMT
On Friday 21 February 2003 09:40, Jeff Turner wrote:
> I see what Steven means with:
> >> My main concern is the fact that Lenya does not come only with a
> >> community, but also with a code base. That code base is in use already
> >> at a selected number of commercial installations (which is good, of
> >> course). I hope to be proven wrong, yet I fear the existing codebase
> >> is intimately linked with these installations - hence the number of
> >> publications in CVS.
> But I don't understand why the usual Apache process wouldn't work.
> Preserve the core architecture whenever possible, but if someone wants a
> revolution, fine: there's nothing wrong with supporting both a legacy 1.x
> and redesigned 2.x release.

FWIW, I'm also slightly in favour of an incubation. What's wrong with a 
codebase?? Don't like it, throw it away... Maybe even two years down the 
line. Ring a bell anyone? (Hint: Think Cocoon 1.x)
When Stefano proposed Cocoon on Jserv mailing list (was it?), it was 
practically a one-man-hack, a bunch of ideas and some support from others. 
Once it was up and running, it create a fair stir of interest, committers 
joining in and rapidly spat out 1.0 - 1.8, while the flaws were identified 
and corrected for in the Cocoon 2 effort.

If Lenya remains a "company driven" effort under the Apache banner (which 
seems to be the fear), let incubation fail, the cultivation (working in a 
germ lab) didn't grow...


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