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From "Leo Sutic" <>
Subject RE: cocoon deps on avalon (Re: [RT] what cocoon is doing wrong)
Date Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:40:52 GMT

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> Recently on avalon-dev I expressed my concerns about their habit of
> moving stuff around for elegance-sake, but I'm starting to think that 
> Cocoon is abusing avalon and this places too much pressure on their 
> shoulders.
> Example: the instrumentation. The Cocoon core is based on code that
> never been released. So, Avalon has the right to move it around (and 
> screw us). But I don't think it's *their* fault, it's entirely ours.

I think there's enough blame for both projects. Cocoon has built on
unreleased code, and Avalon has had a terrible track record of releasing

I think the meaning behind your comments on dev@avalon were justified,
although I think the situation is not getting worse, it is getting


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