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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Implementing XMLForm with Flow
Date Sun, 08 Dec 2002 19:11:50 GMT
Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ovidiu Predescu" <>
>>Check out Christopher's implementation using the control flow:
> Good attempt, although unfinished. I already described its shortcomings.
> Bottom line, it doesn't implement the same functionality.

Only one thing: why it's great to have somebody playing devil's advocate 
and somebody else excited about something new, let's not forget that we 
*all* are working in the same team and for the same direction.

This community has been so far wonderful to reject the notion of code 
and idea ownership because everybody here understands how valuable is 
the notion of 'being proven wrong so that you can learn something new'.

But this requires openmindness and respect for others, which are 
sometimes hard to find in talented people.

Also, consider that everybody is different: what can be easy for you, 
might not be easy for your neightbour and viceversa.

So, when I say "I hate actions", that doesn't mean "then you should hate 
them too".

Also, when I say "I love the concept of flowscript", maybe I'll change 
my mind after I wrote 1000 lines of flowscript! (that's how I got to 
hate actions, BTW, having to write a 1000-lines long and 7-nested layers 
deep sitemap for my webapp due to action complexity!)

So, bottom line: it's great to compete, but *only* if there is respect 
and openmindness.

I will do whatever it takes to make sure that technical competition 
doesn't ignite personal friction on this list.

I sincerely hope that all of you follow me on this path and leave 
code/idea onwnership feelings aside in order to have a much greater time 
and being able to learn even more from this experience.

Thank you

[again, Ivelin, this is not personal to you, just that you happen to 
inspire me a lot these days... ah, btw, you still didn't trim your posts!!!]

Stefano Mazzocchi                               <>

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