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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: Compiling with Servlet spec 2.3 classloading
Date Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:29:17 GMT wrote:
> To the developers
> I've created a Pizza Compiler for Cocoon that uses the ClassLoader 
> retrieved from ClassUtils.getClassLoader () instead of a classpath 
> consisting of jar files and classes directories when compiling java files. 
> I've posted a message in the Pizzacompiler discussion forum asking if the 
> pizza developers want my code.
> I'm posting this message to the cocoon-dev mailing list to follow up on 
> others earlier threads regarding compilers and classloading, for example: 
> I'm deploying cocoon in a Jboss/Jetty environment; and I've turned off 
> Java 2 ClassLoading in favour of Servlet Spec 2.3 ClassLoading. I might be 
> wrong, but the general difference between them two is:
> - in Java 2 classloading, the parent classloader is always asked first, 
> then a classloader tries to locate the class itself
> - in Servlet Spec 2.3 the webapp classloader tries to locate the class in 
> WEB-INF/lib, WEB-INF/classes or, when deployed in an enterprise 
> application, in the interfaces to the ejb-layer (which are not found in 
> any files within the webapp).
> The beauty (IMHO) of Servlet Spec 2.3 class loading is that you get the 
> Xalan/Xerces/whatever that you deploy with your application, and _not_ the 
> Xalan/Xerces/whatever is delivered by the JDK or deploy environment - much 
> less hazzle. With this classloading scheme I can take an arbitrary JDK and 
> expect to get the proper classes loaded. I know there's the workaround 
> with endorsed lib and such - but then I have to keep my JDK as up to date 
> as my app.
> The problem with Servlet Spec 2.3 is that the compiler cannot get the 
> interfaces in a neat .jar file and hence cannot load the classes. I've not 
> been able to find any freely available java compiler that uses a 
> ClassLoader when compiling. Therefore I've made a alternate version of the 
> Pizzac java compiler class for cocoon that uses an alternate ClassReader 
> class for Pizza. This combination seems to work.
> If there's interest in my solution I'll post the files to the list.


You are my man, really. I love this.

Let's throw away normal class-path based classloading as soon as possible.

THIS problem has been the major portability issue for cocoon on 
different platforms (like early WebSphere or WebLogic, for example) for 
dynamically compiled stuff (like sitemap in 2.0.x and XSP in all versions).

Now, as much as I like this, I don't want Cocoon to maintain a forked 
version of Pizza. Have you given back your patches to the pizza folks or 
this is just your own personal release for it?

In any case, we *really* need to incorporate this so we must find a 
proper way.

Stefano Mazzocchi                               <>

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