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From "Carsten Ziegeler" <>
Subject RE: [vote] build systems
Date Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:36 GMT

Torsten Curdt wrote:
> AFAICS it doesn't... the cocoon.jar is build before the blocks 
> are build so it 
> cannot work. I just moved precept into a block and noticed the 
> xroles does 
> not get included.
Argh, but it did work, because when I created the portal block
I took care of the build system and changed it for that.

Yes I confirm now it doesn't work anymore, so we should fix it.

> If you just want to add a new block - you wouldn't have to 
> rebuild the core 
> but compile that block which will produce the block and update 
> the roles.jar.
I feared that you would say this, but this reminds me of a poor-mans
concept of blocks.

> > Please, (this is not targeted at you Torsten, it's just an information)
> > let's avoid trying to implement the great block concept proposed by
> > Stefano and Giacomo silently by adding here something and fixing there
> > something. We agreed to move it to 2.2.
> believe me I didn't wanted to did it right now ;-) but while moving the 
> precept stuff I found it's really not in good shape right now.
> IMHO not even good enough for a 2.1 release...
> > I talked with Stefano the last two days about blocks (and more),
> > and guess what, he convinced me that blocks are really cool. We
> > refined the design he already proposed and cleaned out the wrinkles.
> curious to hear more!
> > We will start implementing blocks as soon as 2.1 is *out*. But not
> > any sooner.
> > We both agreed on that.
> then let's at least polish the current build system a little...


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