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From Ovidiu Predescu <>
Subject Re: [important proposal] Cocoon as official Apache project
Date Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:07:16 GMT

I don't think we have a problem here. So far Apache has been using 
machines offered by if I'm not mistaken to host all the Web 
sites and the overall infrastructure (mailing lists, CVS etc.). For 
them this incurs some costs and administrative headaches obviously. If 
some projects choose to offload them and host at least their Web site 
on a different machine, it should be no problem.

We can still maintain the mailing lists, CVS at as they are 
right now, but place the Web site on the same machine which hosts We can arrange to have point to this 

IMO and should remain separate, 
preferably the later under the same ASF umbrella:

- should host Cocoon, the project

- should host applications using Cocoon, which may or may 
not be free of commercial interests

Using the same infrastructure will help us minimize the administrative 
costs which translates into more time spent on useful work.

I don't think there's any legal issue having the machine hosted 
elsewhere, but I may be wrong. Dirk?

Best regards,
Ovidiu Predescu <>

On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 03:04 US/Pacific, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

> Steven Noels wrote:
>> <snipped good explanation I really value/>
> I really value your effort, Steven, and of course of those others 
> helping
> you
> in createing It's a great idea! And I don't want that 
> you
> have to throw away all the effort already put into
> But, *if* Cocoon becomes a top-level project, I'm not sure if it is 
> also
> a good thing to use as the infrastructure. Now I see
> two possible problems:
> a) What is hosted where? Is a mailing list hosted at apache or at
> etc. Of course, this might not be a big thing, but
>    it could confuse others.
>    We could use for example for show casing Cocoon
>    and everything else is hosted at apache.
> b) Legal issues. To be honest, I don't know much about legal things,
>    but I guess that it might make a difference if something is done
>    on a server hosted by apache or on a server not hosted by apache.
> Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea of and as long
> as Cocoon is not a top-level project, it's the only way.
> But if we become a top-level project, I really like the idea to "fix
> the current problems/shortcommings" here at Apache.
> Perhaps we can talk more about this at the gettogether.
> Carsten

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