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From "Amir Rosen" <a...@cti2.com>
Subject RE: [OT] Googlefight
Date Wed, 09 Oct 2002 15:23:45 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:vadim.gritsenko@verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:02 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [OT] Googlefight
> 
> 
> Amir Rosen wrote:
> 
> >what might be interesting is comparing the number of links 
> to each site:
> >
> >http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=link:http%3
> A%2F%2Fxml%2Eapache%2Eorg%2Fcocoon%2F
> >
> >2,660 links to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/
> >
> >http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=link:http%3
> A%2F%2Fjakarta%2Eapache%2Eorg%2Fstruts%2F
> >
> >1,460 links to http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/
> >
> >http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=link:http%3
> A%2F%2Fwww%2Ezope%2Eorg%2F
> >
> >20,300 links to http://www.zope.org/
> >
> 
> ... and in reality it is only 1000 links:
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=link:http://www.zope.org/&hl=en
> &lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=990&sa=N&filter=0
> 
> Vadim
> 

Seems like a google bug

http://www.google.com/search?q=xml&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=990&sa=N&filter=0

Amir

> 
> 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefano@apache.org]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:31 AM
> >>To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> >>Subject: RE: [OT] Googlefight
> >>
> >>
> >>Quoting Piroumian Konstantin <KPiroumian@protek.com>:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Another comparison: Cocoon vs. Struts. 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Cocoon&q2=Str
> >>uts&B1=I%27m+F
> >>    
> >>
> >>>eeling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21&compare=1&langue=us
> >>>
> >>>Result could seem amazing, knowing how popular is Struts. 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>But after a moment
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I've realized that so few searches can also indicate more 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>visibility of the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>project (I mean that Struts does not need to be searched, 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>cause it's well
> >>    
> >>
> >>>known). So returning to the Cocoon vs. Zope case, if Cocoon 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>is searched less
> >>    
> >>
> >>>than Zope this can mean also that Cocoon is easier to find 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>by other means
> >>    
> >>
> >>>(e.g. directly from Apache site).
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Hmmm, while I was craching up to see that googlefight web 
> >>(isn't human 
> >>creativity so amazing sometimes?), with my semantic hat on 
> >>and with purity mode 
> >>turned on, I would say that the above is purely and 
> >>absolutely useless.
> >>
> >>look at 
> >>
> >> http://www.cocoon1.com
> >>
> >>and you know what I mean :)
> >>
> >>In a really semantic search engine, we would have our own URI 
> >>point to our own 
> >>topic and we could be able to have a fair 
> >>semantic-searchfight... but that 
> >>would mean that, for example, the search engine should be 
> >>inferring smart 
> >>enough to understand that if I talk about 'cocoon' on the 'cocoon-
> >>dev@xml.apache.org' mail list, than that token should be 
> >>associated with the 
> >>topic related to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/
> >>
> >>Yeah, it would be cool, but totally impractical since you'd 
> >>have to write your 
> >>emails using RDF-like markup.
> >>
> >>Bah, I should burn this stupid semantic hat one day.
> >> 
> >>-- 
> >>Stefano Mazzocchi                       <stefano@apache.org>
> >>------------------------------------------------------------
> >>    
> >>
> 
> 
> 
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