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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module
Date Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:03:52 GMT
1. Scope
2. Its more of a Subproject of Cocoon.
3. Commiters of the main project vote to appoint committers to the 
cocoon-apps, the reverse is not true.

look at the Jakarta Lucene project's lucene-sandbox.  This is Exactly 
what we want to do.  The Lucene Sandbox
has committers voted in by the Lucene committers.  They just work on 
application extensions to lucene (crawlers, etc)

This is exactly the same kind of thing we want to do.  Jon Stevens even 
said it was okay when I questioned if it was
legitimate for lucene to do it ;-)


cc: Jon only because I used his name in vain...

Theodore W. Leung wrote:

>This sounds very much like a subproject to me.  Can you explain why you
>think this isn't just a subproject?
>On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 07:09, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>>Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>>Ok, can someone of the PMC clarify this.
>>>We should not use the cocoon cvs for cocoon-apps, so a 
>>>separate cvs is the way to go. I don't want to give all
>>>'cocoon-apps' committers also access to cocoon itself.
>>>So it must be separated.
>>Dear PMC, we need your assistance.
>>Cocoon is gaining more "sample" applications every day, and more are 
>>being proposed.
>>We are in the process of cleaning the repository by separating the core, 
>>the implementation and the components in different directories.
>>We also need to remove those apps that are not part of Cocoon itself but 
>>that are important to us and to the community.
>>Therefore, a consensus is forming towards the creation of a new CVS 
>>module for cocoon-apps.
>>The reason why I contact you is that this would not be a completely 
>>separate project itself, since we want the Cocoon committers to be able 
>>to commit, while having the possibility of voting in committers that do 
>>not commit to Cocoon.
>>A kind of young-sister project.
>>Now, this is not a subproject, but not really still Cocoon.
>>What is it? How can it be arranged?
>>Lucene has a similar arrangement IIUC...
>>Also, we had the proposal of a Forrest committer, Steven Noels, who is 
>>driving the effort, and hasalready  made available equipement.
>>He proposes to host this effort with his company's equipement.
>>Does Apache think it's possible to host Apache stuff on another server?
>>Thank you in advance.
>>Nicola Ken Barozzi         
>>             - verba volant, scripta manent -
>>    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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