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From "Ivelin Ivanov" <ive...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Cocoon Wiki (was: Re: [CLEANCOON] Let's clean Cocoon and modu larize it . . .)
Date Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:09:40 GMT

I agree with Ulrich to a certain extent.
Cocoon's core Documentation belongs to the Cocoon main web site.
Supporting sites are fine for developing new pieces of docs, but they should
be only refered to as supporting sites, not main sources of information.
As we've discussed before, hopefully with forrest we will be able to allow
inline notes to the Cocoon main site,
similarly to PHP's doc pages.

Ivelin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ulrich Mayring" <ulim@denic.de>
To: <cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: Cocoon Wiki (was: Re: [CLEANCOON] Let's clean Cocoon and modu
larize it . . .)


> Piroumian Konstantin wrote:
>
> > Your are wrong saying that Cocoon does not server its own website.
Cocoon's
> > site is generated using Cocoon's CLI as well as the Forrest site
> > (http://xml.apache.org/forrest or the recent version:
> > http://www.krysalis.org/forrest). The reason that the web site is not
served
> > as a web application is the infrastructure that has no running servlet
> > engine on the web server.
>
> As I said, there are probably good reasons. But from a marketing point
> of view it is still a show-stopper.
>
> > Cocoon can be used to implement a Wiki application, isn't it? The other
> > thing is that nobody had did it yet.
>
> And people wonder: why not? Why are there Wiki implementations in JSP,
> but none for Cocoon? If it were easy to do, surely someone could slap
> something together right now.
>
> > For lighter tasks a lighter tool is the best, but when you have a
complex
> > web application/site with customizable/personalizable content and
layout,
> > where you will need multimedia output of the same content etc. then
you'll
> > hardly be happy to do it using JSP even with its XML and Tiles like
taglibs.
>
> So, Cocoon is positioned as being only for large and complex websites?
>
> Ulrich
>
> --
> Ulrich Mayring
> DENIC eG, Systementwicklung
>
>
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