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From "Gerhard Froehlich" <>
Subject Re: [RT] Flowmaps
Date Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:57:09 GMT

>> You can also do everything in JavaScript, but beware that you're moving
>> business logic in JavaScript, where it shouldn't be.
>Where should it be then (not provocative, just a question I cannot
>simply answer myself)?
>I think that if we don't come up with a business-logic framework of some
>sort, we will see programmers do the most wild things.

Disagree, I wouldn't use it, when I don't have the freedom to code the
flowscripts like *I* want them. Patterns OK, but please not again such a
academic and not really usable thing like EJBs!

>IMNSHO, Cocoon should be PnP, and not *require* java programming, ie no
>compilation step.

But I wouldn't ban it from the concept, IMO we would loose flexibility. Hmm
maybe we can work with the BSF Framework
to get javascript implemented flowscripts integrated in our Java business
logic. Like Parameters and stuff.

>   Assuming that I want to make my business rules *without* java, what
>can I use?
>   Where do I put them?
>   How do I organize them?
>   Is there a repository for them?
>   How do I use them in the flow?
>   How do I make transactions?


Gerhard Fröhlich
IBM Account Austria - 00/627
BIS e-business integration services
IBM Austria / Vienna
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