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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: Jelly as a possible template or business language (was [RT] SpitScript and [RT] Flowmaps)
Date Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:19:43 GMT
> From:     Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
>> RT about a business logic definition system that has
>>these goals:
>>1. has a quick write-test-correct cycle, ie not to be compiled
>>2. is easy to write and understand
>>3. is modular
>>4. will make flowscript a solution to a problem, not a problem itself

James Strachan wrote:
> Certainly I think Jelly solves all the above goals.
> One of the things I wanted Jelly to do is to take existing declarative
> langauges for workflow, rules, business logic, testing, building and so
> forth and turn them into running code easily. So Jelly could, for example,
> implement the flow / workflow language defined in the commons-workflow
> component in Jakarta Commons sandbox, or any other declarative XML language.
> Lately I've been looking into using Jelly to implement declarative workflow
> style XML languages. There's a bunch of them out there like BPML, XLang,
> WfMC, WSFL etc. What I'd like is for us to design the most appropriate
> declarative XML language for the problem at hand, then try to use Jelly to
> turn that into a running script. So its on my todo list to investigate using
> Jelly with projects like OSWorkflow to implement the declarative part of
> business logic, make tag libraries for rules engines like drools or for
> state transition modules etc.
> I hope some of this has made some sense to some of you ;-). I'd appreciate
> any comments you might have.

If we want to make a business logic system that is based on tasks, I have
little doubt that we could find something better than Jelly :-)

Not only can one reuse tags, but can use tag libraries that have been 
incompatible before to be used together.

The question is: what *is* business logic?

If we make a Jelly business logic system, a Jelly Generator, a Jelly 
Transformer and a Jelly flow control system, what would prevent the 
developer from getting mixed up and not understand what to code where?

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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