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From Stefano Mazzocchi <stef...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Planning the releases
Date Sat, 15 Jun 2002 16:05:02 GMT
Sylvain Wallez wrote:

+1 for 2.0.3 as soon as possible. I don't have issues with that.

> >> And if we are already talking about releases, what do we have to do
> >> for 2.1? It seems that many things are nearly finished, so we can
> >> start to think of a beta phase. I would propose the 15th of July for
> >> the release date of 2.1 beta 1.

-1

We are not even close to what I think 2.1 should be about. I would be in
favor of an 'alpha' release, meaning that we don't make any effort
whatsoever for API back compatibility between 2.1 releases until we go
final (as the WARNING states clearly today), but a beta means that we
are happy with the interfaces we have and I'm not.

> - switch to Avalon Source everywhere (is it already done ?)

This is a big one. I would like more info to evaluate this.

> - switch to LogEnabled

makes sense.

> - I have to write the extended sitemap variable substitution, i.e.
> {request:foo}. I'm late on this since my Cocoon time is currently
> devoted to reviewing a book written by people named... Carsten and
> Matthew ;-)

Cool.

> - more tests and examples on the flowmap. Seems to me that this
> strategic stuff has been a set a bit aside due to lack of time.
> 
> Entering beta state would then allow more people to test this baby !

But would slow us down in development and since we need to develop
rather than to do bugfixes, I don't like this.

My issues are:

1) the flowmap/sitemap connection semantics are bad. I don't like them.
We need to do something more aggressive on this realm. NOTE: we'll have
to change the version of the sitemap namespace in 2.1, but still be back
compatible with 2.0.x

2) finish the design of blocks

Thursday I spent a day with Giacomo talking about the above two points
(I did consulting in Zurich this week). I'll write extensive RT tomorrow
or the next day about what we achieved.

I'm happy to state that we were finally able to provide a solution for
all the problems with had on the table, expecially about sitemap/flowmap
integration and about block polymorphism.

I don't want to enter beta state until we have finished discussing such
important design issues.

Hope you understand my points.

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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